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Time

What is time? Time is a component of the measuring system used to sequence events, to compare the durations of events and the intervals between them, and to quantify the motions of objects. (source: WIkipedia)

So, time has been created by human beings as a unit to measure the above said things. So, how can we say that time is something that exists. We say past, present and future just to sequence events but is there anyway to prove that the past existed or the future exists. Its quite difficult to think because from our birth we have been told about the concept of time. Our bodies grow old may be because that is the way of things but there is no role that time plays in it – they would have grown even if there was no concept of time.

Considering the above said things, the concept of time travel seems to be impossible, reason being that there is nothing called time. Time is only a concept created by human beings. Talking of theory of relativity which relates space and time, seems very improbable. Space is something that exists while time is only a concept. So how can we consider time to be as fourth dimension when it is something that does not exist?

Provided the above assumptions, I can say that astrology (the science of predicting the future) cannot exist. There is no way that one can predict the future. World events or events of larger stature can be predicted using the statistics of the previous years. But as such, pure prediction of future without using any past or present data seems to impossible. Simple probability shows that even if we plan our day on a second basis, the probability is very very less that the events will happen at that exact moment.

I do not know where I get to with this thought. I felt it was worth sharing, so I wrote it.

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  1. #14  christ

    @Divyendu
    My thought was – is time universal as it is believed to be?

    Speed and distance are quantities that everyone believes to be invented by human beings, while time is assumed to be something that has always been existing. A quantity is only a measure, how can it exist?

    Time is not a phenomenon. Its simply a unit of measurement.

    For a better understanding you may read the link suggested by Ghost Runner.

    09/05/24 14:11

  2. #13  Divyendu

    If speed and distance are quantities, how do they not exist?

    Time, like gravity, describes a natural phenomenon.

    Past, present and future are related to time, but not dependent on it. Past and present are definite events, while future is a probabilistic event.

    09/05/24 13:58

  3. #12  christ

    @Anubhuti
    In simple words, I said all scientists try to find out what real is, till then whatever theory seems to be most acceptable (may not be correct) is used.

    @Divyendu
    Is past, present and future not related to time?

    Speed, distance, etc. are all measured quantities – they do not exist.

    Gravity is not a measuring system – its a natural phenomenon. We gave it a unit to understand it.

    Yup, time is a measuring unit. Even if the concept of time had not been there the changes that occur when earth revolves around the sun (e.g. day n night, seasons, etc.) would have existed.

    09/05/24 12:32

  4. #11  Anubhuti

    You got me all wrong. First and foremost, I clearly stated I was talking things related to Physics and Maths! I knew you would twist things to complicate it. I do not know much about geography and history…won’t speak about it.
    Secondly..I wasn’t referring to you when I mentioned the genious minds..sorry if you misunderstood it. I was talking about the various subjects and things I have studied till now in school. :)

    09/05/24 12:12

  5. #10  Divyendu

    Predicting the future and other such things have never been considered an exact science. Future anyway is a probabilistic event…why blame time for it?

    What about things that depend on time? Speed? Distance? Strength of Earth’s gravity? According to you, even these shouldn’t exist.

    Yes, time measures something abstract – you can’t touch it or feel it – but you can’t deny the existence of time just based on this logic.

    In the most general sense, Time is just a pointer, or a reference to measure the changes that occur when earth revolves around the sun (e.g., day n night, seasons, etc.). So even if time doesn’t exist, the things that it points/refers to, still do.

    09/05/24 12:02

  6. #9  christ

    Why not?

    Genius who said that the Earth is not the center of solar system was sentenced to death but later his theories were proved. At the end of 19th century major scientists had thought that all major discoveries had been done and then we see the most influential discoveries been made in the early 20th century.

    I do not claim to be a genius. I am nowhere near to it.

    09/05/24 11:55

  7. #8  Anubhuti

    As far as I know, physics and mathematics are subjects based completely on assumptions…I mean everything there is theoretical but we are so acclamatized to such ideal(thought mathematically proved) concepts and facts,that no one(mind you..exceptions ;) ) has actually the “time” to ponder over the same. We have accepted these proofs willingly(I feel,there is no other choice). So, as I mentioned, some crazy exceptions feel the need to talk about such matters…not a problem to me(no offence intended!). Therefore, if there is a need to doubt “time” then I feel everything needs a proper justification.

    PS: Everything that I have studied till now has been a work of several genius minds put together. There has been nothing as such handed over to us by God. There are certain things which cannot be proved. Universal example : existence of God.

    09/05/24 11:21

  8. #7  christ

    @Ghost Runner
    Thanks for sharing it! I loved it. I thought I was going crazy – but you gave me proof that I am not :)

    09/05/24 10:43

  9. #6  Ghost Runner

    As an extension (and a lil’ contradiction here n there :) )of this school of thought … I am sure you would love this article

    http://does-time-exist.info/

    09/05/24 10:30

  10. #5  Raul

    @christ
    And then none of the measurements exist as well. For instance, is there a weight (or even mass; because if time doesn’t exist weight doesn’t.)?

    Time here is used in multiple senses.
    First the measurement of passage of time. Secondly, the least understood (by me!) concept of “time” itself. So if we use space and time from the same co-located sense then I think theory of relativity or astrology does make a sense. Astrology after all is just science of sequence, in a way.

    No, I don’t claim authority on this. Pure piece of fiction lets say.

    09/05/24 09:58

  11. #4  christ

    @Raul
    Thanks for pointing it out. Actually, I contradicted one of my theories that I had stated in a previous post about Dream vs Reality. I was wrong in saying that space exists – it does not, it is only a projection. I will try to write a post on what I want to say.

    I had this thought – we assume TIME to be universal as if it exists and has existed ever. But it does not. Time is only a measuring system made by human beings to sequence events, etc. So yes, for any kind of measure dependent on time, for example, speed, time exists.

    Time travel, special theory of relativity, astrology, etc. – I do not think that any of this is possible because these concepts take time to be universal which it is not.

    Again, this is only a random thought, I do not claim anything.

    09/05/24 09:48

  12. #3  Raul

    Okay. I don’t totally buy this argument.

    Time might as well exist. But, let me assume for now that time doesn’t exist. In this case still travel does exist. So I can travel freely in space; at some arbitrary speed. Remember this speed may not depend on time, alas! there is no time, but speed could exist. Given this, speed could be increased to a high value (or may be low; who knows what high/low means in the current sense of speed :P ), and we could achieve *fast* travel. Time travel as it has been proposed cannot be achieved, we all know. But fast travel we all want and achieve so no arguments here. *Time* may or may not exist but fast travel cannot be stopped.

    Having said all this the more fundamental question is “Who said time doesn’t exist ?” And if it doesn’t, why do you claim space to be existential. Is it even remotely related to the way our senses sense space; because we can see space ? Then I think I can feel time.

    Nice thought though, given that the premise should have been stronger to support you.

    09/05/24 09:27

  13. #2  amitabh

    i m confused !!!

    09/05/24 09:04

  14. #1  swati

    “TRUELY ACCEPTABLE”…its the same thing we know and generally have in our mind but do not hav the corner to think it in such a healthy and logical way…may b this ur own theory but i cant deny to believe it on.
    Good Point of View…
    waiting for more theories to publish :)

    09/05/24 01:59

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